Warren Commission (05 of 26): Hearings Vol. V (of 15)

INVESTIGATION OF

    THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY

    HEARINGS
    Before the President's Commission
    on the Assassination
    of President Kennedy

PURSUANT TO EXECUTIVE ORDER 11130, an Executive order creating a
Commission to ascertain, evaluate, and report upon the facts relating
to the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy and the
subsequent violent death of the man charged with the assassination and
S.J. RES. 137, 88TH CONGRESS, a concurrent resolution conferring upon
the Commission the power to administer oaths and affirmations, examine
witnesses, receive evidence, and issue subpenas

_Volume_ V


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    PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION
    ON THE
    ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY


    CHIEF JUSTICE EARL WARREN, _Chairman_

    SENATOR RICHARD B. RUSSELL
    SENATOR JOHN SHERMAN COOPER
    REPRESENTATIVE HALE BOGGS
    REPRESENTATIVE GERALD R. FORD
    MR. ALLEN W. DULLES
    MR. JOHN J. McCLOY


    J. LEE RANKIN, _General Counsel_


    _Assistant Counsel_

    FRANCIS W. H. ADAMS
    JOSEPH A. BALL
    DAVID W. BELIN
    WILLIAM T. COLEMAN, Jr.
    MELVIN ARON EISENBERG
    BURT W. GRIFFIN
    LEON D. HUBERT, Jr.
    ALBERT E. JENNER, Jr.
    WESLEY J. LIEBELER
    NORMAN REDLICH
    W. DAVID SLAWSON
    ARLEN SPECTER
    SAMUEL A. STERN
    HOWARD P. WILLENS[A]

[A] Mr. Willens also acted as liaison between the Commission and the
Department of Justice.


    _Staff Members_

    PHILLIP BARSON
    EDWARD A. CONROY
    JOHN HART ELY
    ALFRED GOLDBERG
    MURRAY J. LAULICHT
    ARTHUR MARMOR
    RICHARD M. MOSK
    JOHN J. O'BRIEN
    STUART POLLAK
    ALFREDDA SCOBEY
    CHARLES N. SHAFFER, Jr.


Biographical information on the Commissioners and the staff can be found
in the Commission's _Report_.




Preface


The testimony of the following witnesses is contained in volume V:
Alan H. Belmont, assistant to the Director of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation; Jack Revill and V. J. Brian of the Dallas police, who
testified concerning conversations Revill had with James Patrick Hosty,
Jr., a special agent of the FBI; Robert A. Frazier, a firearms expert
with the FBI; Drs. Alfred Olivier, Arthur Dziemian, and Frederick W.
Light, Jr., wound ballistics experts with the U.S. Army laboratories
at Edgewood Arsenal, Md.; J. Edgar Hoover, Director of the Federal
Bureau of Investigation; John A. McCone, Director of the Central
Intelligence Agency; Richard M. Helms, Deputy Director for Plans of the
Central Intelligence Agency; Thomas J. Kelley, Leo J. Gauthier, and
Lyndal L. Shaneyfelt, who testified concerning efforts to reconstruct
the facts of the assassination; Mrs. John F. Kennedy; Jack Ruby;
Henry Wade, district attorney of Dallas; Sgt. Patrick T. Dean, of the
Dallas police, who testified concerning a conversation with Ruby;
Waggoner Carr, attorney general of Texas; Richard Edward Snyder, John
A. McVickar, Abram Chayes, Bernice Waterman, and Frances G. Knight, of
the U.S. Department of State; Secretary of State Dean Rusk; Mrs. Lee
Harvey Oswald; Harris Coulter, an interpreter with the Department of
State; Robert Alan Surrey, a Dallas citizen who testified regarding his
relationship with General Walker; James J. Rowley, Chief of the U.S.
Secret Service; Robert Carswell, special assistant to the Secretary
of the Treasury; Bernard William Weissman, who testified concerning
an advertisement signed by him which appeared in the Dallas Morning
News on November 22, 1963; Robert G. Klause, a Dallas citizen who
testified regarding a "Wanted For Treason" handbill; Mark Lane, a New
York attorney; President Lyndon B. Johnson and Mrs. Lyndon B. Johnson;
Llewellyn E. Thompson, former U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union, and
Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon.




Contents


                                                         Page
    Preface                                                 v

    Testimony of--
      Alan H. Belmont.                                      1
      Jack Revill                                          33
      V. J. Brian                                          47
      Robert A. Frazier                               58, 165
      Alfred Olivier                                       74
      Arthur J. Dziemian                                   90
      Frederick W. Light, Jr                               94
      J. Edgar Hoover                                      97
      John A. McCone and Richard M. Helms                 120
      Thomas J. Kelley                               129, 175
      Leo J. Gauthier                                     135
      Lyndal L. Shaneyfelt                           138, 176
      Mrs.